#26

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:41 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

what kind of soil are you using.......... I think maybe your plants are to small for their pots and are way over watered because of this........ a few pics would help confirm......... what is your feeding and water schedule?


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#27

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:47 am
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

I let them dry properly, so they are not overwatered. I'm no pro, but after doing this about 10 times (since march) I'm figured a few things out. They are not suffering from space, because they would just sulk if they were working on being root bound, not show potash (or other) def. This is surely a lockout due to either PH (doubtful, checked with 2 meters and drops) or lockout due to chemical discrepancies.

Still working on editing pics, and found freaking seeds in my tent that's at 8 weeks old today.. was going to run 1 more week, but looks like today is chop chop! Basically, my Cotton Candy nannered (again) at about 5 weeks in. I was HOPING that they were infertile, considering last run of Cotton Candy also nannered but I got 0 seeds. This time, though, it seems I've attained a few visible seeds in the neighboring Sage N Sour. :( :(

Thanks for your replies G13! I really do appreciate each and anything that is said! :)

@G13: Oh yeah, my feeding. I gave them 2 1/2 weeks of no nutes, water only... they did great. Put them in 1gal pots... doing just great. Gave them first round of nutes, and it seems they were a bit "hot." Right around 550-600 ppm's. So, at first I figured I was putting it in too hot. I'm adding Cal-Mag, and using my Jungle Juice, but I replaced one of the 3 parts with another brand. It "worked" on Tent #1 (flowering) "ok".. just not that impressed, and now in the veg state, it seems like things are locking out. I've added back water only and gotten the ppm's down to 400ppm, and also added some Hygrozyme to help "eat" the locked out products.


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#28

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:54 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

the pics on the 15th shows small plants........ when did you move them to 1 gallon pots?


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#29

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:01 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

plants do as you discribed when they sit in pots to big for their root structure.......... their roots sit up against very wet and heavily nuted soil.......... what kind of soil are you using?


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#30

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:09 am
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Using the same thing I've used since March; Coco and Perlite.

When I took them out of the red solo cups, roots were starting to wrap a bit around, and they were all the way to the bottom. Perfect transplant time. Also, there's plenty of roots poking out of the bottom of the 1gals currently.

Either it's nute burn (aka, what you just said and what I've already mentioned. 600 ppms of nutes into freshly transplanted youngin's) or it's a chemical lockout due to using something to supplement one of the 3 parts of JJ. Or... it's both, lol :)

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#31

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:21 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

that is a soil-less mix....... I use promix which is soil-less also........ I had to use less nuts than recommend to get good results....... I also add lime to my soil......... I still think your plats were to small to be put in one gallon pots........ this is causing some of your issues........ I have experienced the same thing.......... if you had waited another week or two to transplant you might have avoided some of the problem.


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#32

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:29 am
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Nope, they were nearly 3 weeks in those, and the roots were wrapping around the cup my friend. I've done transplants with much less roots, and had no issues. :)

It's too hot / too early + hot and/or chemical lockout. (Still trying to get these pics up, but my wifes is extremely sick right now)

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#33

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:36 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

hope your wife gets well soon


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#34

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:37 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

you going to flower in the one gallon pots?


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#35

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:43 am
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Hah, oh no, definitely not. :) I will be vegging in these then going into flowering with Hydroton surrounding this 1gal coco/perlite "core" into 10" mesh pot in my hydro system (15 gal totes)

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#36

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:08 am
by surfinc | 1.748 Posts | 6388 Points

looks like gonnna be some monsters..
I have done the one gallon full of RW cubes as a test for myself once...almost root-bound but super healthy and strong ..16 under a lamp and was a great pull for me..alot of work compared to 7 or 9 plants like i also like to do but was fun...


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#37

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 10:15 am
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

I hope your better half is feeling better. I will wait for your pictures. How long till you get more JJ bloom?


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#38

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:15 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Here's some pics. Some are of the veg station and the others are of a finishing tent. The tent that is finishing will go for 1 more week. Today marks 8 weeks down, and +1 more will be a 9 week run.







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#39

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:19 pm
by Weedhopper | 1.210 Posts | 4031 Points

Nicew Job.
Those Babies look like they are ready to eat PPL.
Little House Of Horrors PPL eater Plants. LOL


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#40

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:22 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

And the last 3 tall ones that I had to re-re-size.



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#41

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:25 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

@Weedhopper: Hah, yeah thanks. I love this hydro system I'm running with Jungle Juice. Really makes for a great show and yield.

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#42

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:31 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Looks great man, I will let the pro's give you advice on your deficiency problem. Can you hold out till you get your JJ bloom?

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#43

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:40 pm
by ozzydiodude • The Weird One | 2.468 Posts | 11514 Points

What"s you ppm ? and ph running at?


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#44

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:49 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

PPM's to start (original reason for def I believe) ended up around 550-600ish (entered @ 550 ppm and after 24 hours read 615ppm) Bit too hot, I wanted to start them around 400-450 PPM's and I should've waited a couple more days.. I feed them the day after transplant. :( Few noob mistakes that I'm self recognizing.

As for my JJ Bloom.. I'm just running the Botanicare substitute until Tuesday. Will be picking up a quart of JJ Bloom, and some other supplies, on that day. :) :)

Thanks all!

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#45

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:00 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Also, could be Mag def... not sure, but I've been adding cal-mag since beginning. Maybe I should add some more?

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#46

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:17 pm
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

Looks like ph problems to me......... I'd cut back on the amount of nutrients and add 5ml of cal/mag per gallon of water.


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#47

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 5:44 pm
by surfinc | 1.748 Posts | 6388 Points

whats the ph running at ?


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#48

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:19 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Whoops.. sorry, ph has floated between 5.6 to 6.1. It's settled tonight at 5.8.

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#49

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:24 pm
by surfinc | 1.748 Posts | 6388 Points

im a hydro guy looks good for hydro but are those soil pots? should be higher ?


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#50

RE: Dr Green Fang takes an adventure...

in Grow Journals Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:27 pm
by Dr Green Fang | 142 Posts | 864 Points

Nope, it's coco and perlite. I've run those numbers hydroponically for a few runs now, and I do believe that's the area I'm supposed to be in. When running coco like this, I should be hitting this area.

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