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cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:36 am
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

I know this isnt the right place to start a clone thread but its the closest we have. At the moment I have no room for my propagation dome and tray in my cabinet. Since clones dont need much direct light would this work? or should I get a CFL and put above it? not sure if you can see it but its on top of the t5.

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#2

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:39 am
by ozzydiodude • The Weird One | 2.471 Posts | 11533 Points

The cfl work great for cloning imo.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:45 am
by pcduck (deleted)
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First I would not place propagation tray directly on the t-5. Over heat the roots, plus water and electricity do not mix.

2nd see Ozzy's post.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:39 am
by Rosebud | 499 Posts | 2113 Points

Just stick them in a far corner with your others. Green mojo to you.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:47 am
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

there is no room underneath the light using the propagation dome and tray. the top of the t5 is actually cool, not the least bit hot. This is only temp maybe 30 days. once i am able to move these plants into the flower tent I will have room to put the dome and tray under the light.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:00 am
by ozzydiodude • The Weird One | 2.471 Posts | 11533 Points

IMO 30 days is too long to have them on top any light

As long as you got no nosey neighbors keep them on a window seal


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:03 am
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

what about setting them in my closet and sticking a lamp beside them with a cfl in it? would one be ok?


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:06 am
by The Hemp Goddess | 281 Posts | 1083 Points

Quote: Monoxide wrote in post #7
what about setting them in my closet and sticking a lamp beside them with a cfl in it? would one be ok?


Yes. In winter my biggest problem is keeping things warm enough, so make sure that your temps are good.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:19 am
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

i have a double cabinet above my stove that I dont use. I think I will stick a lamp up there with a cfl in it and put the prop dome and tray in there. would one bulb be enough? or should i put two lamps up there one on each side of the dome?


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#10

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:24 am
by umbra | 780 Posts | 4085 Points

One will be enough, but 2 would be better IMO

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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:30 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

I think one bulb will be plenty........ would not put it right on top of the plants.......... the clones just need to be able to see the light...........your not trying to cause photosynteses....... just trying to cause them to sprout roots so they can then grow to reach the light......... make sure your light bulb doesn't run the temps up to high in the cabnet........ also watch the temps up there when your cooking too.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:42 am
by umbra | 780 Posts | 4085 Points

It is easy to adjust the bulb(s) to a height that does not burn the plants whether you are using 1 or 2 bulbs. Light follows the inverse square law, as the distance increases form a point source, the light intensity is decreased by the square root of the distance. For example: if you move the light 2 x the distance the light in lumens will be decreased by the square root of 2 or 4x . If it were 3 x the distance the light would decreased by 9 x. So small adjustments are easy to make and have a significant effect. If the cabinet temps begin to get too high, simply vent the space by opening the door for a little bit.

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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:46 am
by Weedhopper | 1.210 Posts | 4031 Points

Dang gumit Umbra,,,I feel like im back in Algebra class.LOL


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:59 am
by Grower13 | 513 Posts | 2013 Points

Quote: umbra wrote in post #12
It is easy to adjust the bulb(s) to a height that does not burn the plants whether you are using 1 or 2 bulbs. Light follows the inverse square law, as the distance increases form a point source, the light intensity is decreased by the square root of the distance. For example: if you move the light 2 x the distance the light in lumens will be decreased by the square root of 2 or 4x . If it were 3 x the distance the light would decreased by 9 x. So small adjustments are easy to make and have a significant effect. If the cabinet temps begin to get too high, simply vent the space by opening the door for a little bit.




good info umbra.............


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:19 pm
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

what temps am I to try to keep the cabinet at? 80ish?


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#16

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:42 pm
by umbra | 780 Posts | 4085 Points

I would shoot for 75 to 80, but definitely not above 85

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#17

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:04 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Monoxide, do you have a cardboard box you can use. Put holes in the top for ventilation if it is needed. Never tried it but maybe it would work.


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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:09 pm
by surfinc | 1.748 Posts | 6388 Points

i use a similar setup.. i have the babies on a crate in the tray with t-5 like inches over .. this allows room for your lid dome.. when its cold i turn on a seedling mat ...easy peasy....

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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:34 pm
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

i just set them up with a 60 watt cfl sitting beside the dome and tray. I filled up the tray below with about 3/4 inch of water is that what I am supposed to do? sp they stay wet.


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#20

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:38 pm
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

It wouldn't fit in the cabinet and I know water and electricity don't mix but this was the only choice I had. If I put it in my closet, I will have the same issue as before with my daughter asking questions.

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RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:42 pm
by surfinc | 1.748 Posts | 6388 Points

looks good from here.... i have done exactly that in a pinch and it kept things moving along.....green mojo to ya on tose babies...


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#22

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:44 pm
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

what about the water question? was I supposed to put water in the tray? everything I have read only shows how to cut clones etc. not the taking care of them once cut.


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#23

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:51 pm
by surfinc | 1.748 Posts | 6388 Points

I live close to the ocean..so i dont water the tray.. I just spray under the lid for first couple days myself.... it needs to be humid in the tray... If the lamp acts as a warming matt like i use a seedling mat.. That might not be a bad thing. Keep an eye on it and keep lid moist or wet on inside at first ...


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#24

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:54 pm
by 4u2sm0ke • Marijuana is good | 2.332 Posts | 10562 Points

Quote: umbra wrote in post #10
One will be enough, but 2 would be better IMO



haha that what I was telling the Bar keep last Night....one more is allways better...lol

Happy new year


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#25

RE: cloning question

in Germination Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:19 pm
by Monoxide | 649 Posts | 2595 Points

I know its only been a few hours since I made the cuts. Should they be laying over?


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