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Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:57 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Hello everyone, I am unsure about the ph I should be using with this soilless mix. I think I should be ph'ing to hydroponic range not soil range am I correct? I usually grow in soil but this is all I could get .


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:07 am
by sin inc | 101 Posts | 934 Points

well my good sir your in luck i just so happen to be growing in a soiless mix using hydro myself. you will want your ph to be around.5.0 let it drift to 6.0 then readjust back to 5.0 if you want you can use my grow as a ref point
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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:30 am
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Thanks a lot Sin. I was unsure because of the compost in it.


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:21 am
by sin inc | 101 Posts | 934 Points

no prob i was wondering about the compost to .mybe some of the organic growers might chime in

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:54 am
by The Hemp Goddess | 281 Posts | 1083 Points

I think that 5.0 is a bit low for hydro. I would start somewhere around 5.3 or 5.4 and let it drift to about 6.0.

If you have compost in it, I'm not sure I would call it a soilless mixture.


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:46 pm
by sin inc | 101 Posts | 934 Points

i ve really had no problems down at 5.0 using that th-6 mix you was helping me out with thg/mom

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:56 pm
by jungle (deleted)
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a soiless mix imo is inert

your mix isnt inert and therefore I wouldnt use hydro pH charts but rather Soil ones

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:22 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

My compost is bark fines, I read somewhere bark fines have no nutritional value. Would that still put the ph range to the soil side?

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:49 am
by The Hemp Goddess | 281 Posts | 1083 Points

If it has no nutritional value, it isn't compost.


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:32 pm
by Weedhopper | 1.200 Posts | 3987 Points

What kinda Hydro setup are you using that allows you to use Peat,Vermiculite, and Compost?


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:56 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Well it is not supposed to be hydro, I have always used dirt mixed with perlite and used GH flora nova nutes phed to 6.5 and everything was fine. Now I have this soilless stuff that I have never used before. Can't I use it the same way I did with the dirt and perlite? I need to know whether it is true soilless or not so I know which ph range to use.

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#12

RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:10 pm
by ozzydiodude • The Weird One | 2.465 Posts | 11504 Points

I would go with PH ing for soil and if I start to see nutrient deficiencies drop the ph down a little.


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:22 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Thanks Ozzy, that is what I will do. Can you describe what the deficiency I would see first would look like that would tell me I should lower ph range?

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:28 pm
by ozzydiodude • The Weird One | 2.465 Posts | 11504 Points

IMO only the plant can tell you some plant need more of one fert then others. You really can not plan for a deficiency because some strains dont feed the same as others for that matter plants from the same seed batch dont always use the nutes the same


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:41 pm
by pcduck (deleted)
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Quote: MR1 wrote in post #8
My compost is bark fines, I read somewhere bark fines have no nutritional value. Would that still put the ph range to the soil side?



What kind of bark fines? What trees did it come from? Some trees are bad for mj....the fungi will love it if you are organic.


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Sat Jan 18, 2014 3:53 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

Thank you Ozzy , Duck and everyone else for your help. I will use your advice and see how it goes. All I know about the bark fines is what it says on the bag, which is not much.

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:18 pm
by MR1 | 703 Posts | 2417 Points

This is my guinea pig I used to find the ph range for my media. The leaves look like this when using low ph 5.8. I flushed with plain water ph 8, let soil dry out then fed with 6.5 ph ed nutes. Plant is getting better so I guess I will use it like I used my previous soil. What kind of deficiency do you think it is,

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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:33 pm
by surfinc | 1.745 Posts | 6379 Points

too low of PH so no N was available...?? is this a trick question??


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RE: Soilless with Jungle Juice.

in Soils and Soil-less Growing Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:45 pm
by ozzydiodude • The Weird One | 2.465 Posts | 11504 Points

You can not tell what was locked out, all that's showing is ph damage


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